18.11.2007

VanceS contributed 125 messages, 5 emotes during 121 minutes. 2007.11.18 04:02:37 Login Room: VirtualVance VanceS joined the room. VanceS left the room. Room: TI_Reception VanceS joined the room. VanceS flops kerplunkK VanceS looks bewildered VanceS: Hi JudyLo: Hi Vance! How are you? VanceS: hey ok JudyLo: Great! So this is my first Webheads in Action. VanceS: amazing VanceS: and for a while, it's one on one VanceS: cool JudyLo: O.k. I am a graduate from the University of Houston (this December) EC-4 VanceS: even more amazing VanceS . o O ( my alma mater ) JudyLo: Really? These last couple of years have been----amazing! VanceS: I was born in Houston and lived there till the mid 70's VanceS: I was a hippy in Montrose JudyLo: I have been here since the early 90's. But thinking about moving on. VanceS: graduating in what? JudyLo: EC-4; Early Childhood through 4th Grade. VanceS: amazinger amazinger VanceS: my wife teaches KG1 VanceS: she taught our kids in foreign countries VanceS: that's how she got started JudyLo: That is great! I am student teaching at a school that is Magnet for Foreign Language. VanceS: is your background in FL? JudyLo: No; the school is a magnet for language. VanceS: you mean kids wanting to learn FL? SvetlanaM joined the room. VanceS waves to Sveltana JudyLo: Yes, with Magnet Programs, kids don't have to attend their zoned school; they can apply to many schools with "Magnet" Programs. The one I am at is a Magnet for Foreign Language. There are magnets (music, arts, etc). SvetlanaM: Hi everyone. SvetlanaM listens JudyLo: Hi! Good Morning! DennisOl joined the room. VanceS: where is the school Judy? VanceS: hey Dennis JudyLo: The school is in Houston - the area near Post Oak and Willowbend Boulevard. VanceS: My brother has an office off I-10 near there JudyLo: Hi Dennis! JudyLo: Small world! DennisOl left the room (signed off). VanceS: Hi Svetlana, how are you today? SvetlanaM Doing fine, thanks. VanceS: where are you? SvetlanaM: In London Uk DennisOl joined the room. SvetlanaM: UK. VanceS: what are you doing there exactly? SvetlanaM: A long way from Houston DennisOl left the room (signed off). SvetlanaM: I'm doing my MA TESOL, at Institute of Education. SvetlanaM: here in London. VanceS: my MA is in ESL VanceS: are you doing your MA too Judy? VanceS: you didn't specify .. JudyLo: No - BA SvetlanaM: My course work has focused on online teaching . My dissertation is on error correction in text chat - looking for students, who are familiar with online text chat. SvetlanaM: BA in online technology, Judy? VanceS: have you found subjects Svetlana? SvetlanaM: lol - no! JudyLo: No, My major is Elementary Education - EC-4 - and it is BS (sorry-typo) early here-- 6:15 a.m.! SvetlanaM: Judy - the Magnet program uses face to face classes, is that right? SvetlanaM: I don't know the US systems. VanceS: Nelba Quintana has a small cohort of text chatters JudyLo: Yes; it is traditional classrooms with the students. I am student teaching now in 3rd Grade. VanceS: we also have a dbase of text chats at webheads SvetlanaM: Oh, that's helpful Vance SvetlanaM: They need to be studying English! SvetlanaM: Do Nelba's students study English? DennisOl joined the room. VanceS: start here with the earlier years VanceS: http://www.homestead.com/prosites-vstevens/files/efi/chatlogs.htm SvetlanaM: thank you, Vance VanceS: license at the bottom of the page says creative commons with attribution if you use it DennisOl left the room (signed off). RitaZ joined the room. SvetlanaM: I was intending to use audio as well as text chat - but there don't seem to be any takers. Wait - sorry, I don't understand what 'creative commons with attirbution' means ... RitaZ: hi, Judy, Vance and Svet VanceS: attribution means just say where you got it, credit where credit is due SvetlanaM: Is it about following good practise requirements - e.g. anonymity and acknowledgement of VanceS: hey Rita VanceS: creative commons is a kind of copyright that lets people share freely VanceS: with some restrictions, like no commercial use, and crediting sources SvetlanaM: Vance, I am bound to follow all good practice requirements. It's just the different terminology that I don't understand. VanceS: you can click on the link at the bottom of the page SvetlanaM: Thank you so much for the link. VanceS: is it Lawrence Lessig behind creative commons? SvetlanaM: Who is Lawrence Lessig? VanceS: Google him SvetlanaM: Hi Rita SvetlanaM: ok, good suggestion, Vance JudyLo: Hi Rita! SvetlanaM left the room (signed off). VanceS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Lessig VanceS: woops, that was for Svetlana SvetlanaM joined the room. SvetlanaM: Back. Disconnected VanceS: we thought you were off googling VanceS: ok here's the link you missed VanceS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Lessig SvetlanaM: I was - that's when it disconnected!!! SvetlanaM: Exactly the page I found SvetlanaM: hehehe SvetlanaM: He is best known as a proponent of reduced legal restrictions on copyright, trademark and radio frequency spectrum, particularly in technology applications. DennisOl joined the room. VanceS: hence creative commons RitaZ hugs dear Dennis SvetlanaM: Right. VanceS: he's recently spoken on the last century being the read only century VanceS: and this one, the read write one, having traits in common with the age on enlightenment DennisOl left the room (signed off). VanceS: historical perspective VanceS: poor dennis SvetlanaM: yes. This century = read write and share. JudyLo: That's a great thing! SvetlanaM: But acknowledge what you're read when you share .... (at least, that's what we have to do in academia) VanceS: it's our one hope SvetlanaM: you've* SvetlanaM: I think the sharing bit is working - SvetlanaM: it will take time but it'll work JudyLo: Yes, I agree. SvetlanaM: Those who aren't sharing will feel left out lol, because the majority will be sharing. VanceS: I was listing to a podcast on 21st Century Teching VanceS: Teaching - Paul Allison, do you know it? SvetlanaM: No I don't VanceS: EdTech Talk, Worldbridges VanceS . o O ( google them too ) SvetlanaM: right, without getting bumped off VanceS: Anyway, he was interviewing the creators of voicethread VanceS: do you know voicethread? RitaZ: I do, like it JudyLo: I'm not familiar with it. Can you explain? SvetlanaM: like a text message thread, but in voice. VanceS: Do you know about the Scope seminar on social media? SvetlanaM: voicethread.com. Yes I do. SvetlanaM: It's brill VanceS: There is a very interesting seminar running Nov 12 through Dec 2, 2007 at http://scope.lidc.sfu.ca/mod/forum/view.php?id=668 - Social Media in Education VanceS: at that link there is a voicethread VanceS: anyway, my point, I almost forgot ... LeonardiK joined the room. SvetlanaM: Hi, Leonardi VanceS: these guys at voicethread were saying that they were so happy they had a set of users to whom they had given the program for free VanceS: i.e. educators VanceS: they had all this feedback, they could spend time on development SvetlanaM: work smarter, not harder. VanceS: blackboard, they said, could go out and hire 20 crack developers VanceS: exactly, but they have in many ways a more responsive product SvetlanaM: exactly. JudyLo: Almost like a "trial run"? VanceS: and in that podcast they explained very well why creative commons and open source works VanceS: I should go find it and tag it PatriciaHo joined the room. VanceS: http://www.edtechtalk.com/node/2463 SvetlanaM: I can't get the links to open - I had the same problem last Sunday. I have to open them after the session when I re-read the chat text. VanceS: top left of the chat window VanceS: sorry top / right VanceS: where it says actions VanceS: see it? VanceS: pull down and select Send to Pasteboard SvetlanaM: Aaaaaah! VanceS: you can copy the links from the pasteboard VanceS: also Ctrl- or Shift click might get you around your popup blocker PatriciaHo: Is there sound to this seminar? VanceS: Hi Patricia VanceS: we can arrange that if you like PatriciaHo: Yes, I would VanceS: do you prefer skype? Or Elluminate? PatriciaHo: Elluminate SvetlanaM: Skype, for me. Elluminate costs £s. But ... SvetlanaM: it's ok. I'll be on my way now and see you again next Sunday. JudyLo: Goodbye SwetlanaM! VanceS: we have our own Webheads elluminate SvetlanaM: Nice meeting you, Judy. Good luck with Magnet and your students. VanceS: let's go there SvetlanaM left the room (signed off). PatriciaHo: How do I get there? JudyLo: Can I join in? VanceS: http://tinyurl.com/y3eh JudyLo: I control-clicked--looks like you have to log in? VanceS: you have to register with Learning Times VanceS: painless, gives you access to tons of resources LeonardiK: Hello. I am a participant of 'Integrating the Internet into the Classroom course' led by dr. Krauss. VanceS: hi welcome Leonard VanceS: Michael Krauss? LeonardiK: Hello. Nice to meet you. I am from Indonesia. VanceS: wonderful, where in Indonesia NinaTL joined the room. VanceS: Hi Nina VanceS: we're heading for Elluminate JudyLo: Welcome Nina and Leonard! NinaTL hugs Vance and Rita NinaTL: Hi everyone LeonardiK: Yes, Dr. Krauss is our instructor. Indonesia is a beautiful country in South East Asia, near Singapore. RitaZ hugs Nina back, apologizing for also being in another window, kind of multitasking but not too successfully :-( NinaTL: Leonardi, are you an English teacher? NinaTL: Vance, how was Vietnam? LeonardiK: Yeah, you are right. Currently I am teaching Cross Culture NinaTL: What does that entail, Leonardi? VanceS: vietnam was great JudyLo: Vance, can you tell me a little bit about it? NinaTL: Vance, can you give me the link for Elluminate please? LeonardiK: Making sure that the students are aware of cultural diversity and develop appropiate attitude toward it. NinaTL: Cultural diversity in the world in Indonesia? VanceS: http://tinyurl.com/y3eh VanceS: I seem to be silent there VanceS: I see Patricia VanceS: but there is no interaction VanceS: I'll go out and try again LeonardiK left the room. NinaTL: I will try to go to Elluminate LeonardiK joined the room. VanceS: |Patricia, are you there? VanceS: in Elluminate? VanceS: are you talking? PatriciaHo: yes, I am here, but I can't hear anything VanceS: can you type? NinaTL: I can type but I NinaTL: aha--sound NinaTL: I hear you Vance JudyLo: Can I continue from here or do I need to join as I am not a member? AidenY joined the room. AidenY waves to all JudyLo: Hi AidenY! AidenY: Hi Judy :-) NinaTL: Hello, Aiden! RitaZ hugs Aiden NinaTL: Some of us are over at Elluminate. http://tinyurl.com/y3eh AidenY: Vance, what the URL for the EVO Wiziq chat? AidenY hugs Nina NinaTL: Aiden, did you meet Ibrahim when he went to taiwan? AidenY: No :-( I didn't know that he's coming over. I don't even know that he was here! NinaTL: I think he saw Venny NinaTL: It was about one month ago AidenY: ah- then he must have stayed in Taipei NinaTL: Where are you? AidenY: I'm in Kaohsiung- South of Taiwan NinaTL: Aha NinaTL: Come on over to LT, Aiden: http://tinyurl.com/y3eh VanceS: we're at http://tinyurl.com/ .. right AidenY: ok, I'm still trying to remember what my password is! BeyzaY joined the room. BeyzaY: hi all! AidenY: Hi Beyza! BeyzaY: how re u Aiden? JudyLo: Hi Beyza! BeyzaY: my new facebook friend BeyzaY: hi LeonardiK left the room. VanceS: we're at http://tinyurl.com/y3eh elluminate BeyzaY: thankss NinaTL: Hi Beyza JudyLo: I'm trying to sign up for Learning Times so I can be included in your discussions. AidenY left the room (signed off). JudyLo: I assume that I will know how to access where you are right now at elluminate? And how to access sound as well? NinaTL: That should be quick, Judy. It's free MoiraH joined the room. NinaTL: You will need http://tinyurl.com/y3eh to acess our chat MoiraH: brb MoiraH: hello to all NinaTL: Hi Moira! We are at Ellumintae. Long time no chat! JudyLo: Just having trouble with a user name. MoiraH: give url and I'll be there NinaTL: http://tinyurl.com/y3eh MoiraH: great RitaZ: hi, Moi, have just seen you here, Im no good at multitasking, am at Elluminate, should log out from TI :-( BeyzaY left the room (signed off). NinaTL thinks "Oi, Moi" in the Portuguese mode AidenY joined the room. NinaTL: No Luck at LT, Aiden? AidenY: Nina, can you post the URL again VanceS: sorry NinaTL: http://tinyurl.com/y3eh VanceS: distracted AidenY: my computer crashed AidenY: I'm using my other laptop VanceS: mine was doign that too JudyLo: Am now a member of Learning Times; am trying to find you now. AidenY: mine is downloading the new Java LeonardiK joined the room. NinaTL: http://tinyurl.com/y3eh Judy VanceS: you know my new java won't work with tapped in VanceS: you might want to be careful with the new one RitaZ: Im leaving .., guys, will go on for a while at Elluminate, CU next week! VanceS: I think my elluminate crashed JudyLo: Found the window with Netscape--do I join you from there? VanceS: my elluminate looks awful VanceS: am I still there? RitaZ: seen that, Vance, but Im leaving TI for today, not good at multitasking :-( VanceS: I might have to stop it and go back NinaTL: There should be a message to keep a big white window open until you are actually in the session NinaTL: no vance, I don't think so :-( RitaZ left the room (signed off). VanceS: I'm trying to manage it VanceS: TI is about the only thing working here NinaTL: We are hoping you can get back there NinaTL: What is Wiziq that Aiden keeps talking about? JudyLo: That sounds interesting! NinaTL: Judy, no luck at LT yet? VanceS: you haven't tried WiZiQ VanceS: ? NinaTL: no, I haven't JudyLo: Nina, I've become a member but I really need to look around to figure out where I am suppose to be on it. It appears to be a great resource that I will be able to use. VanceS: The EVO crowd will be there at 15:00 tonight DennisOl joined the room. VanceS: hey there's dennis NinaTL: Hi Dennis! NinaTL: Try http://tinyurl.com/y3eh at LT JudyLo: Hi Dennis! AidenY: right DennisOl: Hi, folks. It's good to be with you . . . finally! VanceS: I had to kill Elluminate AidenY: I just logged out LT VanceS: it was driving down my resources AidenY: I'll be running errands- I'll be back later VanceS: too many things going I guess DennisOl: Hi and bye, Aiden. AidenY: right V--as usual AidenY hugs Dennis MoiraH: bye Aiden DennisOl hugs Aiden right back NinaTL: Dennis, tell us about your meeting with Leanne! AidenY waves bye to all DennisOl: Oh, it was wonderful. MoiraH: You met Leanne, Dennis? DennisOl waves bye to Aiden DennisOl: Yes--last week, Moira. JudyLo: Goodbye Aiden! MoiraH: I thought she was in Mexico? PatriciaHo left the room (signed off). AidenY left the room (signed off). MoiraH: ah .. catching up here NinaTL: This week they were due to cross the border VanceS: Here's about Hanoi, for when Dennis finishes: http://www.geocities.com/vance_stevens/papers/index.html#next DennisOl: Leanne and Calvin were in Mesa (southeast of where I live) visiting Calvin's parents. VanceS: while it's thre DennisOl: They had more bus problems. NinaTL: Isn't she lovely, Dennis? MoiraH: with the cat, of course! DennisOl: Yes, very, Nina. DennisOl: I didn't meet Spike. MoiraH: No!!!! DennisOl: We met midway between Mesa and NW Phoenix, where I live. MoiraH: He looks so beautiful DennisOl: Yess!!!, Moira--and I love cats! DennisOl: I saw (and spent time inside) the bus, and we had lunch together. DennisOl: I have a couple of photos that I'll post later today. NinaTL: I am going to forward an email I got yesterday with funny cat pictures to Moira and Dennis DennisOl: We got along very, very well--or at least, _I_ thought we did! DennisOl: That'll be great, Nina! MoiraH: the bus is truly amazing rom the photos she sent me - common interest as we have what we call a camping car but not a bus DennisOl: Yes, the bus is totally amazing. MoiraH: great Nina NinaTL: I just sent it MoiraH: and they did it themselves DennisOl: One of the most interesting things was their TV / computer monitor. LeonardiK left the room (signed off). NinaTL: What's the bus like, Dennis? just like home? VanceS: great you could meet them DennisOl: Yes, Moira. DennisOl: Calvin is VERY handy--and a terrific guy! NinaTL: Leanne said you are as sweet in person as you are online! DennisOl: Yes, it's just like home, Nina. MoiraH: never met the MAN MoiraH: but he must be DennisOl: The MAN is great--quiet, witty, intelligent . . . . and very affable. DennisOl: The bus has a kind of retro look and feel. DennisOl: I felt instantly at home with both Leanne and Calvin. NinaTL: Can they cook in it? DennisOl: Yes, Nina. They have a stove and microwave and fridge. NinaTL: Awesome MoiraH: Hey, they live in it Nina - they'd starve if they couldn't ;-) DennisOl: They also have electrical and propane capability. NinaTL: Of course, you are right, Moi MoiraH: a mobile home NinaTL: I just can't imagine cooking in a bus JudyLo: Sounds wonderful. DennisOl: It is, Judy. NinaTL: They lived in it for a few weeks before they left CA I think MoiraH: Well, Nina, next time you come to France, I'll take you for a trip in my camping car :-) MoiraH: you can do everything in those things ;-) NinaTL: but it's old and has its problems--that's what kept them in WA for several weeks in Oct, right? DennisOl: They also have wireless Net access--so if they're able to piggyback on someone else's service or hit a hot spot, they can be online. DennisOl: Right, Nina. NinaTL: I hope that's soon, Moi! MoiraH: Book your flight! NinaTL: I wish! DennisOl: Here in Phoenix, there were further problems. I actually met them at a repair place. NinaTL: I hope it gets them to their destination all right DennisOl: And from the repair place, we went to the bus, to lunch, and then back to the bus. NinaTL: How much time were you able to spend with them? DennisOl: I hope so, too, Nina. DennisOl: About 2.5 hours. MoiraH: What is their final destination? Do they in fact have one? NinaTL: Well, they are going to friends DennisOl: They're going somewhere in the Yucatán. NinaTL: but they haven't decided where they want to settle down yet DennisOl: They have friends there. MoiraH: Adventures, adventures MoiraH: great stuff JudyLo: Yucatan--long way from Houston. NinaTL: There is a quineanera party they are planning to attend, I think NinaTL: but after that--the sky's the limit? DennisOl: I think they might relocate there. MoiraH: I couldn't do that with my family any more - they'd linge me DennisOl: Right, Nina. NinaTL: linge? NinaTL: lynch? DennisOl: Right! Linge? MoiraH: sorry, linch MoiraH: ;-) DennisOl: Ah! LOL NinaTL: lynching has become a hot topic again here DennisOl chuckles when he sees that even Moira makes typos MoiraH: yes, Nina MoiraH: ? NinaTL: idiots are hanging nooses on college campuses MoiraH now now Dennis, you know I'm the typo Queen DennisOl: I make plenty of them, but somehow I figured you seldom made typos, Moira. NinaTL: It's a very powerful symbol here because of the listory during the civil rights movement and before MoiraH: ALL the time NinaTL: history DennisOl: Then you and I are a mixed set, Moira. VanceS: IMy computer is not letting me typie ehre MoiraH: especially Sundays after a lovely meal NinaTL: One was found outside the Nyumburu Cultural Center here at U Maryland DennisOl: It comes with typing too fast, I think--and hitting "send" or "enter" even more quickly. MoiraH: or just not paying attention ;-) NinaTL: speaking of typos, vance... DennisOl: That, too, Moira! ;-) NinaTL: I was at a party last night and I ate too much MoiraH: amongst friends who don't judge :-) NinaTL: I am too old for that I guess--I felt awful! VanceS: no, when I type the letters are not appearing as I type them DennisOl: I know that feeling, Nina! NinaTL: I still feel a little odd DennisOl: Hmmm. Very interesting, Vance! MoiraH: you shouldn't eat, Nina, you should dance :-) NinaTL: They had chili NinaTL: There was no dancing at the party NinaTL: It was a chili-music party DennisOl: Yes! Opa! Opa! Opa! NinaTL: That was last week, Dennis--I danced a lot at the Ikariotes dance in Baltimore VanceS: something is really eating my computer memory NinaTL: It was awesome! DennisOl: Terrific, Nina! NinaTL: a virus, Vance? hope not DennisOl: Funny (to me) story: DennisOl: I was at a function where a Russian and a Greek bishop were present. DennisOl: Everyone was having a great time. MoiraH: and??? DennisOl: The Greek bishop said, "Yassou!" DennisOl: The Russian bishop said, "Gesundheit!" DennisOl: end of story MoiraH: really? NinaTL: That is funny LOL DennisOl: Really. It actually happened. NinaTL: Who sneezed? DennisOl: Yes, LOL. NinaTL: Moi, because Gesundheit is Jewish here, not german DennisOl: No one. The Russian bishop was trying to be witty. "Yassou" sounded like a sneeze to him. JudyLo: Funny! DennisOl: It was one of those polyglottal pun things. NinaTL: OK, even better MoiraH: true, Im' not a good Jewish mom, am I, Nina? ;-) NinaTL: don't know, you've never tried to feed me LOL DennisOl: The educated and/or semi-educated folks understood it, but the mostly Greek and mostly Russian speakers didn't. MoiraH: although I'm accused of it all the time NinaTL: But Greeks also use yeia sou when somebody sneezes, in addition to hello and goodbye NinaTL: It's a multi-tasking word DennisOl: The Russian bishop knew that, I think. DennisOl: And so did the Greek bishop, of course. NinaTL: apparently so! DennisOl: Apparently! MoiraH: well, if we're only talking about sneezing, Gesundheit is correct, but why say it in German and not Russion? NinaTL: I have a pretty easy day ahead of me here DennisOl: There were a smattering of chuckles among the crowd attending the event, but it was one of those rarified attempts at tongue-in-cheek humor that evaded most. NinaTL: What do Russians say? I've forgotten MoiraH: no idea NinaTL: maybe they don't acknowledge the sneeze MoiraH: pass the tissue NinaTL: One of the languages I studied doesn't DennisOl: Russians say "Zdoroviye!" (Health) NinaTL: OK MoiraH: thank you supersonic ;-) NinaTL: like us here with coughs NinaTL: we don't acknowledge them at all DennisOl: Japanese and Koreans don't say anything. They ignore sneezes. MoiraH: aren't they muffled in the nose wraps ;-) NinaTL: Saying something has something to do with superstition that one's soul might escape with the sneeze, if memory serves DennisOl: I'm not sure what Chinese do. NinaTL: too bad Aiden has left DennisOl: Yes, I think you're probably right. CaroleAH joined the room. DennisOl: Yes, too bad. NinaTL: Hello, Carole MoiraH: Hi Carole JudyLo: Hi Carole. NinaTL: I see you teach special ed CaroleAH: Hello, I see I entered the room after joining MoiraH: Any way, you lovely guys, I must leave for another meeting so it was great catching up here MoiraH: Going to NY, Nina? CaroleAH: Yes, I do. NinaTL: We are mainly ESL/EFL teachers who meet here every Sunday DennisOl: Also, in most Western European cultures, sneezes have a historic connection to the days of the Black Plague . . . so we say "Salud!" or "God bless you!" or "Gesundheit" as a kind of protective measure. DennisOl: Hi, Carole. NinaTL: I plan to Moi, yes! NinaTL: I submitted a proposal which is currently in limbo MoiraH: Whooppeee NinaTL: You too????? DennisOl: Great, Nina! DennisOl: You won't hear for a while from TESOL. MoiraH: Maybe ..... still hesitating DennisOl: I'll keep my fingers crossed for you. NinaTL: I will probably end up doing it at the EV CaroleAH: Okay, I fugured out how to access profiles. NinaTL: cheaper than Seattle, at least getting there MoiraH: It's been a while since I was in NY, so I'll need 'natives' to help me get around :-) NinaTL: Remember last year Paula E suggested we rent an apt for webheads? DennisOl: That'd be great, Nina. I love the EV. I can participate live in it even though I'm in Phoenix. NinaTL: I am a native (I was born there) but not so good at getting around anymore I'm afraid DennisOl: Great, Carole. MoiraH: but you still speak the lingo? NinaTL: Quick learner, Carole! DennisOl: Right, Nina. VanceS: I've got to go guys NinaTL: I don't think I ever spoke like a New Yorker DennisOl: And in the case of NYC, "the more things change, the more things change." NinaTL: Good to see/hear you today, vance NinaTL: have a good wekk NinaTL: week CaroleAH: Is this what they meant about asking to join in when approaching a person's personal office space? MoiraH: One of my colleagues is from N Y and boy do we have a scream with her expressions - Jewish too VanceS: Just when I've shut enough programs that this starts working again VanceS: social life calls NinaTL: This is the reception area, Carole VanceS: byeeee MoiraH: bye V DennisOl: I'm glad things are working, Vance. Bye! NinaTL: Everybody comes here unless you set another room as your default VanceS left the room (signed off). 2007.11.18 06:04:30 Signoff